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Hello and welcome to the WrestleTalk MONDAY MECHA NEWS! I am Luke Owen. And yes I am back from my most excellent adventure out to Japan – where I saw a giant monster, a giant robot, some giant temples, and eat some giant bowls of ramen. Mmm… ramen.
And while I was away I appear to have missed a lot of big wrestling news, like The Fiend winning the Universal Championship – which is cool – WWE stars getting stuck in Saudi Arabia – which is scary – NXT invading the main roster – which is super cool – and Seth Rollins getting into a rah-rather silly Twitter beef with Dave Meltzer – which is just not cool.
But I also missed AEW’s first PPV in the post-Dynamite world, Full Gear, which took place this past Saturday. I’ve now caught up with the excellent show, and you can check out Pete Quinnell’s in about 4 minutes review of the show by clicking the ‘i’ above my head, and Housemate Simon and I reviewed the show in full on today’s episode of WrestleTalk Live.
It was a brutal affair in places, with Cody bleeding more than the final scene of the Evil Dead remake in his match with Chris Jericho, and Jon Moxley and Kenny Omega doing their best literal interpretation of Slayer’s Raining Blood in the show’s “lights out” main event.
The match has seemed to split opinions, with some fans really enjoying the bloody spectacle of it all, while others felt that Mox and Omega went too far – even Kenny Omega superfan Dave Meltzer didn’t like the match! A lot of people have compared it to the Undertaker/Mankind Hell in a Cell match from King of the Ring 1998 – a match that is well-remembered by fans but not always for the right reasons – with many crediting it as the moment that slowed Foley’s in-ring style down – saying they remember seeing Mick Foley walk before that match, and limp afterwards.
And it seems like the match did take a toll on both men – which is unsurprising given the fact they were trying to outdo Twitter’s Super Human woop woop. Not only did Omega not win the match, he took to Twitter to announce that doctors have not cleared him to wrestle this coming week on Dynamite. “I lost and doctors won’t clear me for TV. The problem is that you left me alive and I’ll be back. I win.”
It’s a big blow for All Elite Wrestling, as Kenny Omega has been a big focal point of the Dynamite show since its debut in October. Omega had not been advertised for a match this coming week on Dynamite, with the company announcing yesterday it’s first match of Chris Jericho and Sammy Guevarra challenging SCU for the AEW Tag Team Championships. As of this recording, there’s no information on how long Omega will be out for.
Someone who might not have been the biggest fan of the Jon Moxley vs. Kenny Omega recreating Glen’s death in the original Nightmare on Elm Street is Mox’s real-life wife and WWE commentator Renee Young.
It was quite the rollercoaster for Young, who started off the match tweeting: “My husband is handsome. Also a bad MFer. Lightning bolt emoji” – or maybe she thinks Moxley is as cool as Shazam? – but then it started to go emotionally downhill. Beginning with a simple “wtf”, followed by “Hi. Yes. Hello. I hate this” before ending with “Seriously wtf.”
Thankfully Young had a plan to make herself feel better after watching her husband open up like the elevator from The Shining, saying she was going to watch a Christmas movie as a palate cleanser. IT’S NOVEMBER RENEE, IT’S TOO EARLY FOR A CHRISTMAS MOVIE! But might I suggest Muppets Christmas Carol, Home Alone or Elf? Those are my picks for Christmas movies. But which Christmas movie would you watch as a palate cleanser to Moxley vs. Omega? Vote in the poll above my head to let me know.
But Kenny Omega isn’t the only top star in AEW to pick up an injury following Full Gear.
It wasn’t just Moxley and Omega who shed more blood than that toilet scene from It Chapter Two, as Cody also took a hell of a beating in his AEW World Championship match against Chris Jericho – which had the added stipulation that Cody would not be able to challenge for the title ever again if he lost. And lose he did, when MJF threw in the towel for him, before kicking him square in the dick.
Although we did get to see the excellent finish and post-match angle, Mike Johnson of PWInsider has reported that the match could have ended a lot sooner. Johnson writes: “There was a possibility the Cody vs. Chris Jericho match could have been stopped after Cody’s terrible bump during a dive out of the ring to the entranceway during the PPV. The decision was left up to Dr. Michael Sampson (the same doctor who saved Jerry Lawler’s life when he had a heart attack live on WWE Raw) and Sampson, after examining Cody, made the call that he was good to continue.”
AEW themselves announced on Twitter that Cody got 8 stitches and a costo…costco…costochondral separation, and that he is not cleared for in ring action at this time. Adding a nasty picture of the cut Cody got during the match. For those that don’t know – like me – the costochondral is your ribs.
Earlier in the night, Hangman Adam Page took on The Bastard Pac, and there were also some concerns coming out of that match that Page had picked up an injury. Page himself said during the post-show media scrum that not only was he dealing with a ruptured eardrum courtesy of Sammy Gueverra, he also thought he picked up a stinger during his Full Gear match and was having issues with his right arm. Here’s what he had to say in this video from Fightful.
The stinger appears to be nothing to serious, however, as AEW announced that Hangman Page will take on Pac in the rubber match this coming Wednesday night on Dynamite.
And he’s not the only one who will be at the show, as AEW president Tony KHAAAAAN has revealed that Joey Janela is fine after he took a spike piledriver to the floor from Shawn Spears and Tully Blanchard. After the match Janela remained in the ring and was attended to by medics and agents, but Khan told the press at the post-show scrum that Janela was fine and would be at Dynamite this coming Wednesday.
Khan said, “Joey’s going to be absolutely okay. I wanted to get everyone to check on him immediately, called for people right away when the referee called for help. [Jungleboy] was back there. He and Joey are super tight, he wanted to check on Joey, as a friend. He’s totally okay and I’ll think he’ll be at Dynamite in Nashville on Wednesday.”
And that wasn’t the only bit of news that Khan dropped during the post-show scrum. Not only did he tell the press that the ratings on TNT were “double expectations” and that they’ve done “really, really well,” he also talked about the PPV plans for next year.
Khan noted that rather than do the WWE PPV schedule of once a month, AEW will do quarterly shows; with a show coming early in 2020, Double or Nothing 2 following in May at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, and All Out 2 in Chicago over Memorial Day weekend. PWInsider are reporting that details on the 2020 PPVs will be made very soon, and could possibly tie into Tony Khan telling the press following Full Gear that he would like to see AEW go to Canada and London next year.
But as much as Khan would have liked to only talk about upcoming shows and good news for AEW, there were reports of a backstage fight ahead of Full Gear that he had to address.
It seems like the fights got started a little early on Full Gear weekend, as Bodyslam.net reported a fight between AEW wrestler Jimmy Havoc and commentator Excalibur at Jimmy’s Seafood Restaurant on Thursday night – which was supposed to be a celebration for Tony Schivone’s birthday.
Bodyslam.net reported from the scene that Havoc was “intoxicated” and got into an altercation with Excalubur, which resulted in Jimmy throwing a punch at the commentator. When he missed, Excalibur reportedly put him to sleep via a choke hold. The fight was said to have happened right in front of AEW president Tony Khan.
Bodyslam write, “Atlas security stepped in and got Excalibur to release the choke hold, however the incident was not over because when Havoc came to he once again throws a punch at Excalibur only this time he connected. This resulted in a skirmish/brawl/pull apart between the two, until Atlas security could break it up and escort Jimmy Havoc outside.”
“Once outside, a member of Atlas security was attempting to calm an intoxicated Jimmy Havoc down, but this was interrupted when Excalibur came outside to try and talk things out. Jimmy was still upset and was not wanting to talk and was said to have thrown his cell phone in the direction of Excalibur, missing him but not the wall as his phone broke into pieces. Security again separated the two sending Excalibur back inside while they waited for an Uber to pick up Havoc and take him back to the hotel.”
Bodyslam’s Cassidy Haynes said he witnessed Havoc shouting outside the restaurant about the incident, and was later told that Jimmy felt remorseful about the situation. PWInsider report that Jimmy Havoc was not backstage at Full Gear, “but was never slated to be there.”
Havoc himself made a joke about the situation, posting on Twitter that he was thrown out of the restaurant because he was sat next to MJF and was going to stab him.
At Full Gear’s post-show press scrum, Tony Khan played down the fight, saying, “I wouldn’t call it a fight, I’ve seen a lot worse in the world of football, both in England and the NFL. I’ve seen a lot worse, and I saw a lot worse tonight[at Full Gear]. They scrapped around and it was cool yesterday.” Although the story going round was that Excalibur won the scrap, Tony Khan joked that it would only go down as a “draw at best” on his AEW win-loss record.
Bodyslam’s Cassidy Haynes backs this up, saying that he was told that Havoc and Excalibur hashed out their differences and talked things over, and that there is “no heat” between the two parties.
But before we get out of here, it’s time to announce which classic wrestling PPV will be next reviewed by Oli Davis and myself on our Patreon-exclsuive series WrestleTalk Extra – which in the past has seen us cover WrestleMania X-Seven, both ECW One Night Stands and December to Dismember, TNA Bound For Glory 2010, New Japan’s Wrestle Kingdom 10 and more. It was a close contest this month, and the winner by Patreon vote was Survivor Series 1997 – which just beat out Survivor Series 2014 by 2%! Oli and I will be reviewing the show for around 3 or so hours – and going in-depth on the Montreal Screwjob – which will go live next week.
Pete Quinnell reviews AEW Full Gear in about 4 minutes! You can watch that as well as all the highlights from the past week of WrestleTalk Live episodes by clicking the videos on that are on screen right now. Thank you to our Pledge Hammers on Patreon, some of which you can see scrolling their way into my stomach. I’ve been Luke Owen and that was Mecha Wrestling.